RL vs. SL vs. Physical World vs. Atomic World PDF Print E-mail
Written by Kim Smith (SL Rissa Maidstone)   
Wednesday, 02 July 2008 12:23

You often hear people discussing virtual worlds and the physical world as "RL", "1L" or "real life" and if they're in Second Life, referring to it as "SL". In regard to business that crosses both, I have a peeve about using the term "RL" or "real life". Business is as real as it gets, regardless of whether you're conducting it virtually or in the physical world. To infer that its make believe because your office or work is in virtual environments is bad for every professional working in or using the metaverse for business. Having spent 20 years in an office, I know the hours I spend working in virtual environments from my home office are as long, if not longer, than what I'd spent in my past professional career--it IS a global community after all.

Think about it next time you say something like, "I've an appointment in RL" or "I've got appointments in real life" or some such. I've read too many articles and blogs where virtual worlds are scorned and pointed at as "make believe" and this type of speech endorses those comments. How do you think we should refer to the cross over between virtual / atomic / metaverse and physical worlds? What are your thoughts?

Comments (18)
rl sl / sl rl
1 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 16:44
xiD Dix
The best thing about the metaverse Second Life is the name. Ofcouse it aint no second life, its just your first live where your mind is tricked to be somewhere else. However if you have an appointment in the metaverse Second Life then yes; you have yourself a "sl" appointment, referring to the metaverse or application named after that.

Those who think that Second Life is a second life should place a mirror next to their monitor to find out where they really are and what they really do. :o)

Now enjoy your SL! ding ding ding (tnx Torely)
RL vs. SL Vocabulary
2 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 16:46
Ethos Erlanger
The issue here is that for the time being, so few individuals earn their life's income from product or services transacted in the virtual environment.

I suspect a small percentage of the approximately 100,000 regular, repeat users of the Second Life Grid are earning reportable income in this medium. When a critical mass of the residents of Second Life are generating revenue large enough to feed their family, a descriptor that affords the proper respect for this mode of employment will develop. Right now, the job listings in the newspapers do not have any distinct section devoted to real-income-from-virtual-office-work. When the need to articulate the distinction becomes paramount the terminology will become commonplace.
"Real" Worlds Are Where "Real" Work Gets Done
3 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 16:55
VWestland
How many people fritter away their time in "Real Life" playing solitaire, shopping online or forwarding stupid urban legend email while at work? Someone who working in virtual worlds like SL, be it collaborating on a project, creating virtual prototypes, demonstrating a 3D product mock-up or conducting training, is doing something far more "Real" and valuable!

I agree that all of us who are working in virtual worlds should stop using the terms RL & SL. I for one, use the terms Metaverse (Virtual Worlds) and Terraverse (Corporeal Earth) to refer to where I can be found. I often keep overlapping hours in both offices, as I suspect many other's who are working on the cutting edge of the Metaverse do.

In the not to distant future, I believe the lines between these "worlds" will become even fuzzier or totally disappear, as virtual constructs of ourselves and other objects are superimposed on our Terraverse experience, be it in the form of enhanced Heads Up Displays (HUDs) or other holographic 3D representations designed to help us communicate, navigate and manage a variety of tasks.

Long live the Metaverse! May the terms RL and SL R.I.P!
Coment
4 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 17:00
Scott Moore
Well the top line of your article. says it all. " Written by Kim Smith (SL Rissa Maidstone)"

I have been online since before there were images available, and it seems the online community is constantly coming up with new acronyms and terms to describe things. I have noticed many are so they do not have to type as much. I remember when the word "newbie" was used to denote that the person in question was new and will most likely need help. Now today "noob" is a derogatory term used to denote a new person that will most likely be a menace to other community members.

So I think it is proper to refer to Real life as RL and the meta verse environment as SL or second life. I refer to it as "online" and Real life.

I do not agree that my use of these widely accepted terms is a scorn or say I think online is make believe. If you think to the future SL will simply become a bigger part of the internet.
RL vs. SL Vocabulary
5 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 17:32
Kim Smith / Rissa Maidstone
Good comment! I did point to SL, however, the term RL appears to be common across virtual worlds. I'd differ on perspective in regard to jobs--surely a small percentage in the overall job market today, however, between the entertainment industry, educational institutions, and high tech companies, online community and/or event management for virtual worlds is becoming much more common. Aren't virtual worlds part of "online"?
"Real" Worlds Are Where "Real" Work Gets Done
6 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 17:35
Kim Smith / Rissa Maidstone
Well said. I hadn't thought about the term "Terraverse". I think that's an excellent way to reference this. Thank you!
Comment by Scott Moore
7 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 17:45
Kim Smith / Rissa Maidstone
Hey Scott-interesting comments. Good point about the "Kim Smith (SL Rissa Maidstone). I do believe however, that the work of the people in various professions using virtual world platforms is every bit as real as "real life", so why separate them and instead refer to them in a more meaningful way. Online, terraverse, atomic, metaverse...all good terms.
"real"
8 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 20:34
BeeBee Brouwer
The SL business community is as varied as its' clientèle, and the reputation of each speaks for itself, those who invest their time, money and effort to create and run a successful business guard their reputations by working hard to ensure that their products are well made, their service impeccable, and their customers happy.

The customers, who are they?

My ongoing observation of the SL paradigm has shown me that there are many ways to see this world, and those who share a common perception of the virtual world can be be generally grouped in terms of their common understanding; there are "role players", who use their avatars as vehicles for the characters in the stories they create, there are "gamers" who come to SL expecting a game that can be "won", there are would be entrepreneurs who come looking for "easy money", expecting to profit from a world in which they invest little, and (of course) there are numerous variations on the ubiquitous (cyber) sex trade.

The vast majority refer to the physical world as "RL", in an abbreviated shorthand for "real life".

For me, and the rest of the small percentage who immerse themselves in the virtual world, type in complete sentences, and invest our avatars with our sense of self, the virtual world is merely an evolving part of the "real" world.


For the businesspeople of sl the issue raised is one which will continue to challenge us all; even the l337 txt0r whose fractured and fragmented sentences often defy decryption is a customer. We must accept their interpretation of that distinction and profit from our understanding of it.

If the businesspeople of SL wish to shift the thinking of the masses, the means is ready to hand; as our words expose our thinking, the words in common parlance also shape that thinking, and bowing to the prevailing linguistic evolutionary trend is a sure way to connect with the market... already, simple txt phrases have become quite common, even among the literate.. lol, roflmao, brb.... etc. (etc.= et cetera, an example of similar linguistic evolution now taken as quite commonplace even by those who rail about txt.)

As in all such cases, we must be the change we wish to see, if you would promote the reality of the virtual, use the common parlance, but change the "R" in "RL" to "P" and "PL" becomes "Physical Life".

The verbal distinction between "RL" (real life) and "PL" (Physical life) is an important one because the words we use expose our thinking, those who think that the virtual world is somehow less real will, no doubt, persist in using the term "RL" and continue to deride those of us who embrace the reality of the virtual even as we continue to build the framework of a global society.
"real"
9 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 21:42
Kim Smith (SL Rissa Maidstone)
BeeBee,

This is an excellent post. I agree, and thank you for sharing this point of view with me. PL it is.
Isn't it just a location reference?
10 Wednesday, 02 July 2008 23:12
John Zhaoying
I've always found it hard to muster angst over "RL vs. SL." There are only a couple groups who use the terms in mocking opposition:

1) Contrarian tech journalists, out-of-it curmudgeons and right-wing family-values bloggers of the lower sort. And you can shut them up, easily enough, by noting that: "If it's real enough for 9000 IBM employees and 2500 Cisco employees, it's real enough for me." (grin)

2) People with intellectual myopia -- generally the same kind who persist in believing idiocy like "you can't really be productive if you work at home."

These first two groups will be ground under the iron wheels of history, either by being co-opted or by "aging out." Which leaves:

3) The pragmatic-but-unsure, who really don't know what they themselves think, but who fear the opinions of others, loss of custom and credibility, etc., as a result of getting involved with virtual worlds.

This last group -- the majority, certainly -- is easy enough to win over. You bring them inworld. You make them feel safe. You introduce them to some grown-ups. You show them a nice event ... done. Thereafter, the trick is propagating this newfound conviction to their colleagues, bosses, etc., and getting their institutions to commit.

Aside from these troubled groups, however -- and aside from marginal types who, as suggested, are using SL for identity-play, aren't the terms 'RL' and 'SL' used mostly as shorthand to specify location? (e.g., "Is the meeting in RL or SL?") That seems pretty values-neutral.

Ironically, I think that as things progress, viewpoints will shift to where 'RL,' rather than the virtual alternative, is viewed as the limited-but-necessary state (and may ultimate take on the pejorative connotation). RL is where you go to cook dinner for your kids, check homework, fix things on your house, work out, sail, garden, visit relatives and vacation. It's very, very important. And you'd be nuts to let it become a wasteland. But it can't be compared with the infinite skein of luminous connections that subtend your power in the virtual world, which will ultimately be the domain of all commerce and most intellectual life.
Value
11 Thursday, 03 July 2008 01:52
JetZep Zabelin
Most of the modern world is designed in the "virtual" world: in drawings whether its pen and ink or sophisticated visualization software. Business in the virtual world deserves the same respect as business in meat space. What is disappointing in SL is the economy doesnt respect me as a designer, people expect me to be paid only a couple thousand L$ for custom designs for the same type of work that I get paid anywhere from $20/hr. to $100/hr. in real life.
JetZep
Value-JetZep Zabelin
12 Thursday, 03 July 2008 10:02
Kim Smith / Rissa Maidstone
Jet, You're actually opening up an opportunity for a new blog post that I'll write later today. I agree with everything you've said. World2Worlds, and prior to this company, UBM/CMP/Think Services, paid myself and the subcontractors we hired fair rates. We asked for bids and generally paid what was requested. We have very strong feelings about paying people for their time for all professional work. In any event, this is the start of a new blog post, more on this later this evening.
Work Perceptions
13 Thursday, 03 July 2008 10:42
Anton Hand / Xenius Revere
I don't specifically have a problem with the terminology of of RL vs. SL, as I see it as simply another victim of netspeak truncation. What I do take issue with (as Jet mentioned) is that artisans/asset producers are not taken as seriously in a virtual space. Granted I think this is partly due to the old anonymity breeds irresponsibility issue that pervades the internet, but also due to the fact that VWs share the same visual and interactive language of gaming. I hope that such things improve as people stop thinking of SL as a "game" per say and more a generic space where games can be present.
Just my two cents
"Meatspace"
14 Saturday, 05 July 2008 11:19
BeeBee Brouwer
Thanks, Jet! "meatspace" is an interesting term, in my mind it conjures images of a avatar based gamer who sees quite clearly, that the self is not the body.

The "self" (IMHO) is the non corporeal id which animates the avatar, whether that avatar is composed of pixels or flesh.

"I" can die thousands of horrible deaths in battle as a pixel based "gamer", "I" can kill without guilt or remorse of any kind, and "I" can fly, teleport, build..... etc. in digital worlds.

Avatars are resilient in ways that flesh is not.

Recalling that "meat" and "flesh" are often synonymous, and the body may be seen as a flesh based avatar, "Meatspace" is a brilliant choice if one wishes to delineate the physical when referencing from the virtual, especially if one wishes to put a negative connotation on the reference.
Meatspace a tad too 'moral,' no?
15 Monday, 07 July 2008 08:01
John Zhaoying
While I love a good negative connotation, I'm leery of 'meatspace,' because (as BeeBee notes) it raises the old cultural spectre of dualism, and lights up connections with outworn moralities that express contempt for the flesh.

This is worrisome when you consider some of the politico-ideological threads at play in virtual reality today, like 'transhumanism,' which may seem in certain lights (and in certain companies) benign, but connect via short links to anarcho-capitalist-elitist, radical libertarian and ultimately fascist root-thought.
Fascist, schmaschist
16 Wednesday, 16 July 2008 20:27
Nortius Maximus
John, over on your zzomg blog you pointed out how Google decided what ads to provide, and that it made you uncomfortable.

Seems you find that 'oppressive' somehow. Is that word, or perhaps 'dirigist', or 'procrustean', or even 'Hobbesean', more appropriate than the one you chose to use as an "ultimate" (what modesty!) analysis (really, a simple deprecation) of transhumanism? Or should we just call your experience evidence of Google's 'fascism'?

I'll spare you the overused Eric Blair / George Orwell quote; I like one from Inigo Montoya (in Princess Bride) better.

"I do not think [that word] means what you think it does."

I'm not blind to the shortcomings of many people who call themselves transhumanists. But I think using the f-word is sloppy polemics.

Let's aim for more precision: there are some illiberal people at home with calling themselves transhumanists. There are also illiberal currents at play in both Google and Wikipedia. Do we call all those "fascist"? If so, what is accomplished by that?
RL vs SL
17 Wednesday, 16 July 2008 20:35
Nortius Maximus
Regarding Rissa's plea, I'm afraid I have to paraphrase Philip K. Dick: RL is that which, when my 'net goes down, doesn't go away.

Not to belittle your genuine concern that work done re SL etc. has real (and yes, grimace, "RL") value. I sympathize with your concern. The edges are far from clear: if my S&L goes down the tubes, is the money in my account still real? Earth's been around n billion years; we've had electricity in usable form for only a bit over 100. We settle for things, in environmetns that have had no time to settle. :)
To Nortius: If the shoe fits ...
18 Thursday, 17 July 2008 07:49
John Zhaoying

What's accomplished is to remind folks that Google's system, in combination with its effective monopoly of search, records information that illiberal people can use to identify thoughtcrime, populate enemies lists and orchestrate pogroms. This kind of thing has already happened in China (ref. use of Yahoo's and other search data to identify dissidents) and may well be happening in the US too, given the present (somewhat illiberal) administration's extraordinary (and super-danceable) rendition of habeas and due process. 

This is not to impugn the intentions of Google's engineers (who wish to "Do no Evil," and are just looking for better ways to show ads online) but to note that certain technologies lend themselves to (cough) illiberal applications.

So do certain schools of thought. Now mind: I think most people presently attracted to transhumanism are nice folks, who are just in it for the gender-/identity-play, the anti-aging, the body modding, the rocket belts, space colonies, nanotech, or uploading our brains to our Treos. No blame, no foul.

But the formal transhumanist platform pulls together trains of thought (e.g., manifest human destiny, demands for unlimited right to property, unregulated innovation, the primacy of Science, contempt for the body and the limitations of Nature, and that whole Singularity thing) which in aggregate are pretty creepy. In a shallow remapping, they play to a techno/oligo/libertarian agenda (e.g., unregulated innovation = limited liabiity if our breakfast cereal gives your children cancer; Singularity = we don't know what miracles Science will turn out over the next 30 years, but miracles always occur, so let's not worry too much about global warming). In a deeper remapping, they echo (at least for this Gentle Reader) the rabble-rousing origin/destiny myths recruited to support famously-illiberal regimes like the Third Reich.

In that light, I wonder if 'illiberal' is really strong enough a word to use in either case. Sure you don't like 'fascist?'

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